More College Advice – GPA

I know this has been discussed before here, but I find Joel’s comments about having a high GPA questionable. I’ve never paid much attention to GPA scores when hiring, except to wonder why some candidates with mediocre GPAs in the 3.0 – 3.3 range brag them up. If anything, I’m interested in people who have quirky grades all over the map due to taking strange, challenging, and diverse courses.

It’s hard for me to believe that people in hiring positions really care much about high GPAs, unless they themselves have high GPAs (ignoring HR drone filters). If so, that’s already a minority. Even in this group, though, especially those with very high GPAs, my experience has been that its not really a factor.

At best, it’s a slight positive in the general hiring world, and can actually count against one when seeking employment, as in Bs don’t hire As. I tend toward very high GPAs myself (3.9 in my just completed graduate work, albeit it’s business strategy).

So I’m curious, does anyone here agree with Joel on this to the extent that the GPA counts (or would count) as important if you were hiring someone? Are you a high GPA yourself? I’m curious if there’s a correlation between high GPA and this attitude.

— Mongo

— Monday, January 03, 2005

You know the old saying, “The world is run by C students”[.]

— ted knight

— Monday, January 03, 2005

From my experience from college (and this is just my experience, so don’t flame me), the people with high GPAs were generally hard working and responsible, while the people with low GPAs were either slackers, people that made excuses (“oh, I had sooo much work to do”) or just not good enough to get high grades. I wouldn’t really want to hire most of the people I knew with poor GPAs. Some were very good, but I wouldn’t trust them to do be responsible and do their job even when things got boring.

I got a 3.91 from a top 10 CS program, and that helped tremendously when I was looking for jobs and internships. Companies were contacting me and asking me to apply, I didn’t have to seek them out. A friend of mine who graduated at the same time as me, from the same program, just found a job recently almost two years after graduating. He said a lot of companies wouldn’t even look at him because of his low GPA.

Other friends decided they couldn’t find a good job, so they’re going to grad school. Well, big surprise, they can’t get into a good grad school either with their low GPAs.

So yeah, I think it matters a great deal. One thing I noticed was that the people that had to pay for college themselves and had to work through college (like me) took it more seriously and got better grades, while those whose parents paid for it oftentimes didn’t care too much, took way too long to graduate, etc.

— sloop

— Monday, January 03, 2005

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