Plato

trowawee 4 months ago

I’m a little frustrated at the tossed-off reference to Plato and Aristotle at the beginning – “The good life may have sufficed for Plato and Aristotle, but it is no longer enough.” – because I feel like that ignores the fact that both Plato and Aristotle, along with a lot of philosophers, actually had a lot to say about physical fitness. Plato was a champion wrestler, and both he and Aristotle viewed physical education as a fundamental component to living the good life. Xenophon quotes Socrates saying this:

“For in everything that men do the body is useful; and in all uses of the body it is of great importance to be in as high a state of physical efficiency as possible. Why, even in the process of thinking, in which the use of the body seems to be reduced to a minimum, it is matter of common knowledge that grave mistakes may often be traced to bad health.”

The whole article feels a little too mired in presentism, and ignorant of the history of self-improvement ideas.

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coldtea 4 months ago

>Plato was a champion wrestler

And the name Plato is a nickname — meaning “the broad/wide one” given to him for his broad shoulders because of that training and physical appearance. Real name: Aristocles.

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kernelbandwidth 4 months ago

It’s funny to consider that one of the canonically great philosophers in history is known essentially by the equivalent of his WWE wrestling name. It’s like if in the future there were classes taught on the philosophical ideas of “The Rock”.

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coldtea 4 months ago

Some other amusing related stuff: so, Plato, was called for for the ancient greek word for broad/wide.

Modern [English] words that stem from the same root: plateau, platitude, plat, plate — via French and Latin (plattus) from Greek (platis “flat, wide, broad”).

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danohu 4 months ago

Well, the first Pope was literally called The Rock (Peter). Jesus appointed him by saying “you are The Rock, and I’ll build my church on this rock”.

Exactly what he meant has led to centuries of debate between protestants and catholics.

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acangiano 4 months ago

“No man has the right to be an amateur in the matter of physical training. It is a shame for a man to grow old without seeing the beauty and strength of which his body is capable.”

― Socrates

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— Improving Ourselves to Death

— Hacker News

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