Bell’s theorem, 7

dools on Nov 21, 2014

When I watched the Leonard Susskind lectures on quantum entanglements he said the whole “communicating faster than light” thing is a bit misleading. The analogy he gives if imagine you have two coins and you ask someone to turn them over so one is heads and the other tails then you give them to 2 people without them knowing which is which, then they go to opposite ends of the universe, and they look at their coins, they instantly know the state of the other coin purely by deduction.


hasenj on Nov 21, 2014 [-]

That’s what Einstein argued for, and it’s what Bell’s inequality proves to not be the case.

I actually remember seeing a Youtube video of Susskind talking about how “FTL” communication is a hack to try to force the quantum state to conform with our notions about the world. (he didn’t phrase it this way though; just my interpretation).

I don’t know the context it was said, but it seemed to imply that there’s a way of thinking about quantum states completely independent of set theory and our classical notions, and this way of thinking should not require FTL communication between entangled particles.


evanb on Nov 21, 2014 [-]

While GP’s example is not what happens in QM (Bell’s inequality shows that the state of the two coins is not predetermined-but-secret), it is akin to that example, in the sense that because each person gets a random (though correlated) bit, they cannot transmit information to one another.

Bell’s inequality is a statement about the possible strength of the correlation, rather than about information transmission.


pfortuny on Nov 21, 2014 [-]

Exactly. It is important to note that there is no information exchange if you do not have any information at all.


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